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      The existing Lucene.Net home page at http://lucene.apache.org/lucene.net/ is still based on the incubation, out of date design. This JIRA task is to bring it up to date with other ASF project's web page.

      The existing website is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/lucene.net/site/

      See http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html to get started.

      It would be best to start by cloning an existing ASF project's website and adopting it for Lucene.Net. Some examples, https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/pylucene/site/ and https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/java/site/

      1. ASF.LICENSE.NOT.GRANTED--New Logo Idea.jpg
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        Troy Howard
      2. asfcms_1.patch
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        Prescott Nasser
      3. asfcms.zip
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        Prescott Nasser
      4. Lucene.zip
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        Prescott Nasser

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Resolved http://incubator.apache.org/lucene.net/
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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment -

          I would place the log in the disclaimer section at the bottom. Too many logos near the top is just going to be cluttered. We'll already have two largish logos, if we stick with the current template.

          Another alternative would be to ditch the main Apache logo and replace with the incubator logo.

          I'll post a message on incubator general asking for guidance about logo design contests and the appropriate way to go about that as a podling.

          Thanks,
          Troy

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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - I would place the log in the disclaimer section at the bottom. Too many logos near the top is just going to be cluttered. We'll already have two largish logos, if we stick with the current template. Another alternative would be to ditch the main Apache logo and replace with the incubator logo. I'll post a message on incubator general asking for guidance about logo design contests and the appropriate way to go about that as a podling. Thanks, Troy
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          Guidelines for the incubator website: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html. We need to create a number of pages, I'm going to try to get to that in the next couple of days.

          Also, the branding guideline: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html. I think we cover this with the exception that we need the apache incubator logo on our site. I figured that should go in the layout, but I'm not sure how that might fit in.

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Guidelines for the incubator website: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html . We need to create a number of pages, I'm going to try to get to that in the next couple of days. Also, the branding guideline: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html . I think we cover this with the exception that we need the apache incubator logo on our site. I figured that should go in the layout, but I'm not sure how that might fit in.
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          I'm in - do we announce something to the incubator general? how do we go about starting this up. I know there are limits to what kind of promotional stuff we can do as an incubator project.

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - I'm in - do we announce something to the incubator general? how do we go about starting this up. I know there are limits to what kind of promotional stuff we can do as an incubator project.
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          slombard Scott Lombard added a comment -

          I like the idea of the a new logo. A logo design contest sounds like a good idea to me.

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          slombard Scott Lombard added a comment - I like the idea of the a new logo. A logo design contest sounds like a good idea to me.
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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment -

          Regarding logo design:

          • The color scheme on the new logo idea was choosen because it aligns with Apache's dark blue color and also lucidimagination.com and Solr.

          Solr Logo:
          http://lucene.apache.org/solr/images/solr.jpg

          Lucid Imagination Logo:
          http://www.lucidimagination.com/sites/all/themes/lucid_3/logo.png

          Lucene's logo, and even worse Lucene.Net's hacked version of it is pretty ugly. It's hard to read, doesn't imply anything, and as Michael said, would be more appropriate for an emblem on the side of a classic car than as a product logo for a modern technology.

          For reference:

          Lucene Logo
          http://lucene.apache.org/images/lucene_green_300.gif

          Lucene.Net Logo
          http://incubator.apache.org/lucene.net/images/lucene_net_green_460.GIF

          In the new logo, the idea behind the hexagons was to show multiple sources coming together in an index. Best I could come up with at the time.

          I'm not a huge fan of the green used in the Lucene logo either. So I'd prefer not to repeat it's use. Another more pleasant green might work out though..

          I mostly just wanted to get the discussion rolling and wanted to have something reasonably pleasant to look at as a placeholder in the website template. I'm a software engineer, not a graphic designer. I'm sure there are MANY people out there who can design a better logo than me. I hope so. Let's get them involved.

          I think we should open a logo design contest. We can accept submissions and vote on the results. Worked for CouchDB not that long ago. It will give our more social users something (else) to blog about.

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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - Regarding logo design: The color scheme on the new logo idea was choosen because it aligns with Apache's dark blue color and also lucidimagination.com and Solr. Solr Logo: http://lucene.apache.org/solr/images/solr.jpg Lucid Imagination Logo: http://www.lucidimagination.com/sites/all/themes/lucid_3/logo.png Lucene's logo, and even worse Lucene.Net's hacked version of it is pretty ugly. It's hard to read, doesn't imply anything, and as Michael said, would be more appropriate for an emblem on the side of a classic car than as a product logo for a modern technology. For reference: Lucene Logo http://lucene.apache.org/images/lucene_green_300.gif Lucene.Net Logo http://incubator.apache.org/lucene.net/images/lucene_net_green_460.GIF In the new logo, the idea behind the hexagons was to show multiple sources coming together in an index. Best I could come up with at the time. I'm not a huge fan of the green used in the Lucene logo either. So I'd prefer not to repeat it's use. Another more pleasant green might work out though.. I mostly just wanted to get the discussion rolling and wanted to have something reasonably pleasant to look at as a placeholder in the website template. I'm a software engineer, not a graphic designer. I'm sure there are MANY people out there who can design a better logo than me. I hope so. Let's get them involved. I think we should open a logo design contest. We can accept submissions and vote on the results. Worked for CouchDB not that long ago. It will give our more social users something (else) to blog about.
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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment -

          The staging site and CMS Web UI are working now and ready for us to get in there and edit content/layout/etc..

          I set this up with a really basic template copied from the Lucy project, which is copied from the default Apache site.

          Browse here to see the staging site:

          http://lucene.net.staging.apache.org/lucene.net/

          And here to edit content using CMS Web UI:

          https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/

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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - The staging site and CMS Web UI are working now and ready for us to get in there and edit content/layout/etc.. I set this up with a really basic template copied from the Lucy project, which is copied from the default Apache site. Browse here to see the staging site: http://lucene.net.staging.apache.org/lucene.net/ And here to edit content using CMS Web UI: https://cms.apache.org/lucene.net/
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          pierogitus Alex Thompson added a comment -

          The concept of the current logo isn't that bad, its just executed poorly (looks like someone did it in Paint). I don't mind if it changes but maybe keep a green color scheme to imply our loose connection with java lucene.

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          pierogitus Alex Thompson added a comment - The concept of the current logo isn't that bad, its just executed poorly (looks like someone did it in Paint). I don't mind if it changes but maybe keep a green color scheme to imply our loose connection with java lucene.
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          michaelherndon michael herndon added a comment - - edited

          I think anything would be better than the current one (which would look cool if it was cleaned up and put on the side of a chevelle. But I don't know how would help brand lucene.net).

          I'd say keep doing a few more variations. Open it up for the public to make some submissions as well. (giving credit to whoever's design is chosen maybe even give them some social media love).

          The final one needs to work well with both rgb and cymk color formats and in a scalable graphics format so that it can be resized cleanly.

          Also it should have a visual aspect of it that can be turned into a decent 16 x 16 favicon. (like the 3 yellow hexagons that is in the jpg).

          Though keep in mind basic color theory. Yellow is irritating on the eyes. Its definitely grabs attention, but its harder on the eyes for an extended period of time. Green is the most relaxing.

          But above all else: keep moving forward towards something new.

          :: edited due to posting this while on an empty stomach, never wise ::

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          michaelherndon michael herndon added a comment - - edited I think anything would be better than the current one (which would look cool if it was cleaned up and put on the side of a chevelle. But I don't know how would help brand lucene.net). I'd say keep doing a few more variations. Open it up for the public to make some submissions as well. (giving credit to whoever's design is chosen maybe even give them some social media love). The final one needs to work well with both rgb and cymk color formats and in a scalable graphics format so that it can be resized cleanly. Also it should have a visual aspect of it that can be turned into a decent 16 x 16 favicon. (like the 3 yellow hexagons that is in the jpg). Though keep in mind basic color theory. Yellow is irritating on the eyes. Its definitely grabs attention, but its harder on the eyes for an extended period of time. Green is the most relaxing. But above all else: keep moving forward towards something new. :: edited due to posting this while on an empty stomach, never wise ::
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          ccurrens Christopher Currens added a comment -

          I would be happy to move away from the old logo. The project's goals have certainly changed from the previous project and I think it deserves to look new. Not to mention the old lucene.net logo, the .net part of it looks funky.

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          ccurrens Christopher Currens added a comment - I would be happy to move away from the old logo. The project's goals have certainly changed from the previous project and I think it deserves to look new. Not to mention the old lucene.net logo, the .net part of it looks funky.
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          I like it better than the current one. What is people's feelings on moving away from the Lucene logo? We aren't a different product like solr, nor are we a loose port like Lucy.

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - I like it better than the current one. What is people's feelings on moving away from the Lucene logo? We aren't a different product like solr, nor are we a loose port like Lucy.
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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - - edited

          The existing logo is rather ugly, so I decided to play around with some ideas for new logos. This is just one idea. Please let me know what you think. We can revert if everyone else things this is a bad idea.

          See attached jpg...

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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - - edited The existing logo is rather ugly, so I decided to play around with some ideas for new logos. This is just one idea. Please let me know what you think. We can revert if everyone else things this is a bad idea. See attached jpg...
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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment -

          I committed a basic version of the website using the Apache CMS, including a new logo and updated content. This is SVN r1071105.

          I also opened a new issue in the infrastructure tracker to get a staging area setup. Located here:

          https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3452

          Thanks,
          Troy

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          thoward37 Troy Howard added a comment - I committed a basic version of the website using the Apache CMS, including a new logo and updated content. This is SVN r1071105. I also opened a new issue in the infrastructure tracker to get a staging area setup. Located here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3452 Thanks, Troy
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          Patch for the website

          asfcsm diff and .zip with binaries

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Patch for the website asfcsm diff and .zip with binaries
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          Can anyone commit those files in the zip to the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/lucene.net/site/asfcms? Or how can I get commit access to the location?

          Joe is ready to set up us asf cms space, but we need those files added. Also - if I can't commit, is there a contact I can use to get updates posted? or do I need to always upload files here and then wait for someone to add them?

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Can anyone commit those files in the zip to the https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/lucene/lucene.net/site/asfcms? Or how can I get commit access to the location? Joe is ready to set up us asf cms space, but we need those files added. Also - if I can't commit, is there a contact I can use to get updates posted? or do I need to always upload files here and then wait for someone to add them?
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          Grant or George, do you know how long it might take for the infrastructure group to set up ASF CMS space?

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Grant or George, do you know how long it might take for the infrastructure group to set up ASF CMS space?
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          This is a very rough draft of a first pass. At this point I need some help from a pro. I've tried to mimic the ASF CMS layout. I figured why not just skip forrest and go straight to it.

          I ripped the Lucene Java (forrest) layout, and did a bit of clean up, but mostly just got something passable and threw it into the ASF CMS format.

          But I have no idea what to do with these files at this point. Ideally I'd like to put them up and see how they get parsed (it's likely I've got mistakes all over the place).

          Any help would be much appreciated

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - This is a very rough draft of a first pass. At this point I need some help from a pro. I've tried to mimic the ASF CMS layout. I figured why not just skip forrest and go straight to it. I ripped the Lucene Java (forrest) layout, and did a bit of clean up, but mostly just got something passable and threw it into the ASF CMS format. But I have no idea what to do with these files at this point. Ideally I'd like to put them up and see how they get parsed (it's likely I've got mistakes all over the place). Any help would be much appreciated
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          Any objections then to just digging into the ASF CMS system? Also, in terms of what the page should look like, do we still want to mimic the other lucene pages? or should we go with the skeleton that apache.org uses?

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - Any objections then to just digging into the ASF CMS system? Also, in terms of what the page should look like, do we still want to mimic the other lucene pages? or should we go with the skeleton that apache.org uses?
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          gsingers Grant Ingersoll added a comment -

          Please see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2746.

          Also, keep in mind we will probably be dumping Forrest at some point in the near future in favor of the ASF "house" CMS.

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          gsingers Grant Ingersoll added a comment - Please see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-2746 . Also, keep in mind we will probably be dumping Forrest at some point in the near future in favor of the ASF "house" CMS.
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          georgearoush George Aroush added a comment -

          Apache Forrest is the proper way to do this. I would rather see us learn and use it vs. taking a short cut and doing direct HTML.

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          georgearoush George Aroush added a comment - Apache Forrest is the proper way to do this. I would rather see us learn and use it vs. taking a short cut and doing direct HTML.
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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment -

          If we are considering this, should we use the same apache forrest project to build the site? or are we open to regular old html pages?

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          pnasser Prescott Nasser added a comment - If we are considering this, should we use the same apache forrest project to build the site? or are we open to regular old html pages?

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