Issue 59295 - chapter info in alphabetical index
Summary: chapter info in alphabetical index
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: formatting (show other issues)
Version: OOo 2.0.1
Hardware: All All
: P3 Trivial with 1 vote (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Keywords: oooqa
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Reported: 2005-12-13 15:01 UTC by claudiadzm
Modified: 2017-05-20 11:26 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Issue Type: DEFECT
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sample document (11.86 KB, application/vnd.sun.xml.writer)
2006-10-26 08:03 UTC, claudiadzm
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missing chapter info in index (156.81 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2010-10-04 13:05 UTC, claudiadzm
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Description claudiadzm 2005-12-13 15:01:36 UTC
This Issue replaces the closed Issue 59243
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- Insert alphabetical index
- Entries: add 'chaper info' into structure line
- Index/table: activiate 'Combine identical entries'
but not 'Combine identical entries with..'

First problem: the 'chapter info' is reduced to only
one - the last - chapter in which the search string
appears. 

Second problem: the 'chapter info' is activated
because each main-chapter starts with page numer 1.
But now it is impossible to know which numer-one-page
is the right, may also be more than one.

It should be possible either to consider the chapter-info as part of the entry
and leave one entry per chapter or to generate the page-nummer-list in a form
that the different chapters can be distinguished

entry chapter A 1,2,3
entry chapter D 2-5
entry chapter G 3,4,5

entry  chapter A 1,2,3
       chapter D 2-5
       chapter G 3,4,5
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2005-12-13 15:58:21 UTC
Reassigned to ES.
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld 2006-10-25 08:19:04 UTC
Can we get a sample document and some more information, especially screenshots?
I tested with an own document and it seems that I can not reproduce that problem
with "2.0.2  German version WIN XP: [680m5(Build9011)]", but may be I have not
understood the problem in all details.
Comment 3 claudiadzm 2006-10-26 08:03:24 UTC
Created attachment 40069 [details]
sample document
Comment 4 eric.savary 2006-10-26 11:38:07 UTC
Now I get the point too!

ES->claudiadzm: just a note - please, next time, write your explanation in
Englisch (see your document). One never knows where an issue will be assigned in
the end ;).

ES->OS: when a chapter number is part of an alphabetical index structure and
this index uses "Combine identical entries", the chapter shown in the index is
always is always the last one in which the keyword appears.

a) It should be at least the first one.
b) We should show all chapters in tha form:
entry chapter A 1,2,3, chapter D 2-5, chapter G 3,4,5.
Comment 5 claudiadzm 2006-10-26 13:53:23 UTC
I don't think that the problem should be linked too much to the chapter-
definition. The problem is the new-start of page-numbering and that does not 
depend on a chapter definition.
It's true, that in my cases (and perhaps on the majority of cases) the page-
numbering restarts at every new chapter and therefore including the chapter-
info into the index-entry would solve the problem, but only, if all pages 
appear in the index. If they do, the chapter-info should be considered as a 
part of the page-numbering and not as simple information for the whole index-
line.
Solution a) doesn't help, for it's still the same problem: the index doesn't 
lead to all entries.

I'll try to explain in english, but I've little knowledges only, so I hope it 
would be clear:
When page-numbering restarts one or more times in a document, we've not only 
one "page 1" but two or more times. "Page 1" is no more a unique definition.
But the writer knows the "real" page-number and I think, indices should base on 
this "real" page-numbering, but show the "formatted" page-number. 
That would mean, when the option "combine identical entries" is activated, the 
entries should be combined seprately for each page-number-range.
That might give indices like:

Flowers	1,2,1,1,2,3
or
Flowers	1,2
Flowers	1
Flowers	1,2,3

But even if that seems to be a mistake, it is more correct than

Flowers	1,2,3

If there is outline numbering defined and the page-restart depends on the 
breaks between the chapters, the user can include the chapter-definition an 
should receive something like:

Flowers	I-1,I-2,II-1,III-1,III-2,III-3
or
Flowers	I-1,2,
Flowers II-1
Flowers III-1,2,3

Perhaps it would be usefull to show a message when an index is created in a 
document that has more than one page-number-range.

(the roman numbers represent the outline numbering)
Comment 6 claudiadzm 2010-10-04 12:59:34 UTC
OpenOffice 3.2.1:
There is no chapter-info in the index!
We've hundreds of catalogs in use by out clients. Each chapter starts with "page
1" so that it's possible to actualize the chapters independently. But the index
doesn't make any sense if yout don't know to which chapter a page number
mentioned in the index belongs.
I'll add some screenshots
Greetings, Claudia
Comment 7 claudiadzm 2010-10-04 13:05:10 UTC
Created attachment 71933 [details]
missing chapter info in index
Comment 8 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:24:25 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".
Comment 9 Marcus 2017-05-20 11:26:03 UTC
Reset assigne to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".