Issue 30216 - Ability to set the default date format
Summary: Ability to set the default date format
Status: CONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: Writer
Classification: Application
Component: ui (show other issues)
Version: OOo 1.1.1
Hardware: All Windows XP
: P3 Trivial with 69 votes (vote)
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Assignee: AOO issues mailing list
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Reported: 2004-06-15 00:54 UTC by kelvine
Modified: 2017-05-20 10:44 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description kelvine 2004-06-15 00:54:05 UTC
Hi,

I added the following comments to issue 6180 which has now been closed. As 
advised I am raising a new issue.

I've noticed the issue to set the default date format appears quite often in 
the users mailing list.

For example for Australia when I select Insert -> Fields -> Date, I get the 
format DD/MM/YY. 

I would like the ability to set the default date format to DD MMM YYYY or DD 
MMMM YYYY.

This issue is not about changing the date once it is inserted. It is about 
setting the underlying default date format separate from the locale.

Another scenario is where people wish to conform to the YYYY-MM-DD standard 
because this is their organisation's standard, whilst the country standard may 
be MM-DD-YYYY.

The default date can be set in Calc (using templates), but there does not 
appear to be such a feature with Writer.

The ability to set the default date in Writer IMHO is a basic requirement. It 
is not a major issue, just an inconvenience. 

In MS Word this is very easy to do.

Thanks

Kelvin
Comment 1 michael.ruess 2004-06-15 09:11:23 UTC
reassigned to BH.
Comment 2 apostata 2004-08-04 17:12:01 UTC
This is a very important enhancement suggestion.  Fundamentally, it's a question
of application maturity/flexibility.  Users should be able to change standard
defaults such as date-type - if they are forced to use workarounds (such as
Autotext-ing), it only underlines the limitations of the application.
Comment 3 matthias.mueller-prove 2006-11-13 13:23:00 UTC
voting
Comment 4 bettina.haberer 2007-09-26 16:01:14 UTC
Hi Mathias, I have changed the current owner to your owner. Please take the
ownership of these enhancements.
Comment 5 soloowl 2008-11-16 02:47:48 UTC
I strongly feel that an application which does not respect its users’
preferences is poorly designed, or maybe even broken.  The default date, time,
and number formats should be taken from the operating system where possible. 
The user should be able to set their own formats throughout OOo, including
dialogs, and for individual documents.  The user should not be forced to use
“locale” settings, which cannot always match the needs of particular industries
or organizations, or the quirks of guys like me.

This problem has been here since 2004.  I guess the developers don’t care about
usability.

——Solo Owl
Comment 6 eric.savary 2009-11-21 17:33:35 UTC
*** Issue 106992 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 7 eric.savary 2009-11-22 12:22:37 UTC
*** Issue 106992 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 8 tnetter 2010-02-22 13:58:37 UTC
This is a serious issue. 6 years in the waiting...
Comment 9 tnetter 2010-02-22 13:58:55 UTC
This is a serious issue. 6 years in the waiting...
Comment 10 celglo 2010-07-05 13:48:45 UTC
To OpenOffice.org
.
My problem with your spreadsheet is your 
default date format of DD/MM/YYYY. 
I prefer to adhere to International Standard 
(ISO 8601) date format of YYYY-MM-DD. 
I have configured my Windows XP to 
adhere to International Standard (ISO 8601) 
YYYY-MM-DD for date and 24-hour HH:MM:SS 
for time. 
.
True, although you allow me to change the 
date format, you make it very difficult for 
me to do so. You give me no way to override 
your default. I live in Canada. The old 
date format here WAS (in the PAST) DD/MM/YYYY. 
But the Standards Council of Canada has 
changed that by adopting the International 
(ISO 8601) of YYYY-MM-DD. 
.
Your =NOW() function does not even include 
the following in its list of formats: 
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
.
There would be less confusion for you and 
me and everybody else if everybody were 
to agree to a single date-format standard -- 
which is the reason for the existence of 
International Standards. However, instead 
of encouraging users to adhere to 
International ISO8601, by imposing your 
defaults on users, you are discouraging users 
from adhering to International Standards.
.
This comment submitted on Monday, 2010-07-05 08:49
Comment 11 benanderson 2010-07-06 14:33:35 UTC
I can't believe that nobody has fixed this. It remains my biggest irritation
with Writer. My workaround is that I include a date in my preferred format at
the top of my default template. Then I press Delete if my document does not need
a date. Why should I need to do this? Letters are probably the biggest use for
Writer. Every letter needs a date in the format required by the user. With a
name like OPEN Office, why not make the default date format OPEN to the user?
Comment 12 corigo 2010-07-06 19:49:42 UTC
Dear celglo, 

you are mistaken in thinking that there is only one standard. The ISO has 
multiple date standards, with 8601 being the most prevalent, but the ISO does not 
restrict the possibility of multiple standards (for example ISO has ratified both 
OpenDocument and OfficeOpenXML). Keeping any single standard ISO, or by location 
should only be a default, and as a user I should be able to use/define the 
standard that is appropriate to me and my needs.
Comment 13 grimripper 2012-03-25 11:25:22 UTC
How long has this been open? More than 8 years? It needs to be fixed.
Comment 14 kellybellis 2013-10-29 12:59:59 UTC
Saturday June 5, 2004

There; that was easy enough to type out manually, I guess. Why should anybody care seeing the date expressed one way or another... well, except for maybe 06/05/04 ... I guess maybe that could be confusing depending on who was reading that date... assuming they'd recognize that it's a date to start with.. I suppose 06/05/04 could be looked at as meaning the 6th day of May 2004.. or June 5, 2004... or maybe even May 4 2006.

Wonder why after ten years of complaining this hasn't been fixed or why it's deemed as not being persistent?
Comment 15 Ken 2014-04-30 15:55:51 UTC
I would also like to see this for Draw since we use it to create our PDF forms and use the date as a versioning system.
Comment 16 mroe 2014-08-18 06:13:41 UTC
*** Issue 117900 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***
Comment 17 Marcus 2017-05-20 10:44:26 UTC
Reset the assignee to the default "issues@openoffice.apache.org".