Infrastructure
  1. Infrastructure
  2. INFRA-5598

Problems setting up podling marmotta mailing lists

    Details

    • Type: Bug Bug
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Major Major
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Fix Version/s: Initial Clearing
    • Component/s: None
    • Labels:
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      Description

      I used the web form mlreq/incubator for new podling marmotta mailing lists (3/Dec, ~9AM UTC)

      The json committed, but trailing script (called "piao.sh"?) had a error. On IRC, the suggestion was that this didn't matter.

      But today (4/Dec) I can't seem to -subscribe (-> 550), or ping the lists with -info ("no mailbox").

      Please let me know it's safe to try again or whether something needs adjusting first.

      (I didn't retry as something had committed so I didn't want to risk chaos)


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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> The lists haven't been created - wait for the NOTICE mail to the PMC
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> The lists haven't been created - wait for the NOTICE mail to the PMC
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> Lists created and ready to use enjoy
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> Lists created and ready to use enjoy
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        Thanks.

        I notice the names are users@marmotta.inc.a.o, not marmotta-users@inc.a.o Is that the new normal?
        (it isn't a problem - just want to check before the names go out widely)


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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - Thanks. I notice the names are users@marmotta.inc.a.o , not marmotta-users@inc.a.o Is that the new normal? (it isn't a problem - just want to check before the names go out widely)
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> yes and the website too analogously
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> yes and the website too analogously
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        If I send subscription email from my apache account I get the expected "you are already subscribed" reply. (I was added as a moderator during setup.)

        But if I send from a different email address, I do not get a confirmation reply and the dev-list@ email does not show a new subscriber.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - If I send subscription email from my apache account I get the expected "you are already subscribed" reply. (I was added as a moderator during setup.) But if I send from a different email address, I do not get a confirmation reply and the dev-list@ email does not show a new subscriber.
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> I forgot a step - try now.
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> I forgot a step - try now.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        tested - dev@ and private@ - and works as expected -- thanks.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - tested - dev@ and private@ - and works as expected -- thanks.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        There is one oddity with these lists.

        When I send to the private@ list, I have to moderate my own messages,but I'm subscribed (and a moderator) with that email address (andy@a.o). It seems to only happen to me - not to other subscribers or moderators.

        Sending a "subscribe" says I am subscribed.

        Unsubscribing and resubscribing didn't change the situation.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - There is one oddity with these lists. When I send to the private@ list, I have to moderate my own messages,but I'm subscribed (and a moderator) with that email address ( andy@a.o ). It seems to only happen to me - not to other subscribers or moderators. Sending a "subscribe" says I am subscribed. Unsubscribing and resubscribing didn't change the situation.
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> the -allow@ sublist is empty. Can you reproduce the problem from another of your addresses? Did the mods fail-to-reproduce it from their moderator addresses?
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> the -allow@ sublist is empty. Can you reproduce the problem from another of your addresses? Did the mods fail-to-reproduce it from their moderator addresses?
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        I'll try adding another address based on the same setup.

        My andy@a.o account is backed by gmail and I used -subscribe-user=host@ to subscribe the second time. Listing the address list shows looking OK.

        Email to another project's (jena) lists work OK with the same address but they were set up a awhile ago.

        andy@a.o is the moderator address.

        It also affects the dev@marmotta.inc.a.o list (I thought I had successfully emailed that list)

        So far, it seems to be only me.
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - I'll try adding another address based on the same setup. My andy@a.o account is backed by gmail and I used -subscribe-user=host@ to subscribe the second time. Listing the address list shows looking OK. Email to another project's (jena) lists work OK with the same address but they were set up a awhile ago. andy@a.o is the moderator address. It also affects the dev@marmotta.inc.a.o list (I thought I had successfully emailed that list) So far, it seems to be only me.
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> In case you didn't know: as a moderator you can manipulate the -allow list like an ordinary list: dev-allow-subscribe@, dev-allow-list@, etc. Normally "Reply all" to a MODERATE mail adds teh sender to the allow list. So why is private@'s allow list empty ?
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> In case you didn't know: as a moderator you can manipulate the -allow list like an ordinary list: dev-allow-subscribe@, dev-allow-list@, etc. Normally "Reply all" to a MODERATE mail adds teh sender to the allow list. So why is private@'s allow list empty ?
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment -
        I must have been replying only. reply-all is certainly one way to fix it.

        But the reply-all gets a weird looking list:

        To: dev-accept-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o
        CC: dev-reject-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o
        cc: Recipient list not shown: ;
        cc : dev-allow-tc.TOKEN2-user=host@marmotta.i.a.o

        so it goes to accept and reject?

        (yes it says "Recipient list not shown: " because of the headers)

        The moderation email headers are:

        ---------------------------
        From: dev-reject-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o
        Reply-To: dev-accept-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o
        Cc: dev-allow-tc.TOKEN2-user=host@marmotta.i.a.o
        To: Recipient list not shown: ;
        Subject: MODERATE for ....
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        Andy Seaborne added a comment - I must have been replying only. reply-all is certainly one way to fix it. But the reply-all gets a weird looking list: To: dev-accept-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o CC: dev-reject-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o cc: Recipient list not shown: ; cc : dev-allow-tc.TOKEN2-user=host@marmotta.i.a.o so it goes to accept and reject? (yes it says "Recipient list not shown: " because of the headers) The moderation email headers are: --------------------------- From: dev-reject-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o Reply-To: dev-accept-TOKEN@marmotta.i.a.o Cc: dev-allow-tc.TOKEN2-user=host@marmotta.i.a.o To: Recipient list not shown: ; Subject: MODERATE for .... ---------------------------
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment -
        <danielsh> It's probably a good idea not to CC the reject list, but you do need to CC the accept list if oy uwant to avoid having to moderate yourself every time.
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        #asfinfra IRC Bot added a comment - <danielsh> It's probably a good idea not to CC the reject list, but you do need to CC the accept list if oy uwant to avoid having to moderate yourself every time.

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            Reporter:
            Andy Seaborne
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