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  1. Infrastructure
  2. INFRA-18993

Mailing list server (mail.apache.org? hermes.apache.org?) has its time set substantially in the future

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    • Type: Bug
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: Mailing Lists
    • Labels:
      None
    • Project:
      Infrastructure

      Description

      ASF mailing list messages received from 207.244.88.153 (rDNS is hermes.apache.org, EHLO's as mail.apache.org) have Received headers indicating that one or more machines handling the mailing list messages is set to a time over 13 hours in the future. Please note that fixing this may be more complicated than simply correcting the system clock(s) on the relevant server(s) because moving backwards in time is unexpected by many pieces of email software. It is probably necessary to stop the mail-handling systems entirely before correcting the time. Depending on the software being used, it may be necessary to reboot the OS, to clear queues entirely, or even (unlikely) to halt the handling of mail for as long as the clock rollback.

      This should be corrected because some mail filtering tools (including Apache SpamAssassin) attempt to parse Received headers and determine their credibility, which is ruined by obviously bogus timestamps.

      2 sets of sample headers follow:

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      Samnple 1:

      Return-Path: <apmail-billcole-owner@apache.org>
      X-Original-To: sa-bugz-20080315@billmail.scconsult.com
      Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153])
      by toaster.scconsult.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 46QLfk55qFz2Lqkb
      for <sa-bugz-20080315@billmail.scconsult.com>; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 00:14:38 -0400 (EDT)
      Received: (qmail 40217 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2019 17:30:23 -0000
      Delivered-To: apmail-billcole@apache.org
      Received: (qmail 38802 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2019 17:30:22 -0000
      Mailing-List: contact members-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm
      Precedence: bulk
      X-No-Archive: yes
      list-help: <mailto:members-help@apache.org>
      list-unsubscribe: <mailto:members-unsubscribe@apache.org>
      List-Post: <mailto:members@apache.org>
      Reply-To: members@apache.org
      List-Id: <members.apache.org>
      Delivered-To: mailing list members@apache.org
      Received: (qmail 38790 invoked by uid 99); 7 Sep 2019 17:30:21 -0000
      Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142)
          by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 17:30:21 +0000
      Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
      by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 90C2C180D9A
      for <members@apache.org>; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 04:14:30 +0000 (UTC)
      X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org
      X-Spam-Flag: NO
      X-Spam-Level: **
      Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new);
      dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=outlook.com
      Received: from mx1-ec2-va.apache.org ([10.40.0.8])
      by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
      with ESMTP id J8QRKsi2kT07 for <members@apache.org>;
      Sat, 7 Sep 2019 04:14:23 +0000 (UTC)
      Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=40.92.11.51; helo=nam04-sn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com; envelope-from=rgardler@outlook.com; receiver=<UNKNOWN>
      Received: from NAM04-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-oln040092011051.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.92.11.51])
      by mx1-ec2-va.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-ec2-va.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 67792BC7E2
      for <members@apache.org>; Sat, 7 Sep 2019 04:14:23 +0000 (UTC)

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      Sample 2:

      Return-Path: <users-return-121075-sausers-20150205=billmail.scconsult.com@spamassassin.apache.org>
      X-Original-To: sausers-20150205@billmail.scconsult.com
      Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153])
      by toaster.scconsult.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 46QCPS6HcTz2Lng0
      for <sausers-20150205@billmail.scconsult.com>; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 18:47:40 -0400 (EDT)
      Received: (qmail 73876 invoked by uid 500); 7 Sep 2019 11:20:51 -0000
      Mailing-List: contact users-help@spamassassin.apache.org; run by ezmlm
      Precedence: bulk
      list-help: <mailto:users-help@spamassassin.apache.org>
      list-unsubscribe: <mailto:users-unsubscribe@spamassassin.apache.org>
      List-Post: <mailto:users@spamassassin.apache.org>
      List-Id: <users.spamassassin.apache.org>
      Delivered-To: mailing list users@spamassassin.apache.org
      Received: (qmail 73812 invoked by uid 99); 7 Sep 2019 11:20:51 -0000
      Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142)
          by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 07 Sep 2019 11:20:51 +0000
      Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
      by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 62C9BC08ED
      for <users@spamassassin.apache.org>; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:47:37 +0000 (UTC)
      X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org
      X-Spam-Flag: NO
      X-Spam-Level:
      Received: from mx1-he-de.apache.org ([10.40.0.8])
      by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
      with ESMTP id o__arPF2dsvp for <users@spamassassin.apache.org>;
      Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:47:35 +0000 (UTC)
      Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=65.121.55.42; helo=mail.covisp.net; envelope-from=kremels@kreme.com; receiver=<UNKNOWN>
      Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42])
      by mx1-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTPS id C61BF7D723
      for <users@spamassassin.apache.org>; Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:47:34 +0000 (UTC)
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            • Assignee:
              humbedooh Daniel Gruno
              Reporter:
              billcole Bill Cole
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