Incubator
  1. Incubator
  2. INCUBATOR-93

Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator needs clarification: process depends on who is Sponsor

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    • Type: Bug Bug
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Major Major
    • Resolution: Fixed
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    • Component/s: policy
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      Description

      This section details the next step after a successful acceptance vote. It involves a special message to general@ and acknowledgment from IPMC and 72 hours wait. It seems that this is not being followed, rather just doing a vote summary. Does this section need review, or is this a necessary due-process type of thing? It should at least be clarified who can do this step.

      This arises because i am investigating why some projects are not commencing properly, e.g. adding to reporting roster and getting their status document started.

      1. INCUBATOR-93.txt
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        David Crossley

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        David Crossley added a comment - The main reference is: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator and another source of confusion is: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html#Acceptance
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        David Crossley added a comment -

        One issue seems to be that these documents do to not differentiate between the "Sponsor" being some other existing PMC or the Sponsor being the Incubator PMC (on behalf of the board). When read from the former point-of-view, they make more sense than the latter.

        Craig summed it up:
        "...If the Sponsor is not the incubator, then the paragraph you cited applies. If the Sponsor is the incubator, nothing else is required."
        Bill's words earlier in that thread are useful:
        http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200810.mbox/%3c48E39E27.1020304@rowe-clan.net%3e

        In another thread Jukka summed it up:
        "No ACK needed, as it was the Incubator PMC itself who just voted."

        From those words we should be able to add an introductory paragraph in those sections to remind.

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        David Crossley added a comment - One issue seems to be that these documents do to not differentiate between the "Sponsor" being some other existing PMC or the Sponsor being the Incubator PMC (on behalf of the board). When read from the former point-of-view, they make more sense than the latter. Craig summed it up: "...If the Sponsor is not the incubator, then the paragraph you cited applies. If the Sponsor is the incubator, nothing else is required." Bill's words earlier in that thread are useful: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200810.mbox/%3c48E39E27.1020304@rowe-clan.net%3e In another thread Jukka summed it up: "No ACK needed, as it was the Incubator PMC itself who just voted." From those words we should be able to add an introductory paragraph in those sections to remind.
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        Craig L Russell added a comment -

        It would be great if you would write a patch to clarify this.

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        Craig L Russell added a comment - It would be great if you would write a patch to clarify this.
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        David Crossley added a comment -

        ROTFL, you fisherman, you. Yeah i will try next week.

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        David Crossley added a comment - ROTFL, you fisherman, you. Yeah i will try next week.
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        David Crossley added a comment -

        See the attached patch:

        In Incubation_Policy.xml ...

        • Add sentence to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP.
        • Move the "Acceptance of Mentors" paragraph to its own sub-section.

        In Process_Description.xml ...

        • Add an "Introduction" section at beginning to remind to read other documents which also explain the process.
        • Add words to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP.
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        David Crossley added a comment - See the attached patch: In Incubation_Policy.xml ... Add sentence to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP. Move the "Acceptance of Mentors" paragraph to its own sub-section. In Process_Description.xml ... Add an "Introduction" section at beginning to remind to read other documents which also explain the process. Add words to distinguish between IPMC being the sponsor or a TLP.
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        Craig L Russell added a comment -

        +1 on the patch content.

        Could you clean up the >>80 character lines?

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        Craig L Russell added a comment - +1 on the patch content. Could you clean up the >>80 character lines?
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        David Crossley added a comment -

        The Vote was a successful result. One person voted here, the others on general@ list.

        [Vote] [Policy] clarify podling acceptance: INCUBATOR-93Link to this message
        http://markmail.org/message/w5e2j6fyavwom7bm

        Patch is now applied.

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        David Crossley added a comment - The Vote was a successful result. One person voted here, the others on general@ list. [Vote] [Policy] clarify podling acceptance: INCUBATOR-93 Link to this message http://markmail.org/message/w5e2j6fyavwom7bm Patch is now applied.

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