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  1. Hadoop Common
  2. HADOOP-9239

Move the general@ description to the end of lists in the mailing lists web page

    Details

    • Type: Improvement
    • Status: Resolved
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Affects Version/s: None
    • Fix Version/s: None
    • Component/s: documentation
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      Description

      We have users unnecessarily subscribing to and abusing the general@ list mainly cause of its presence as the first option in the page http://hadoop.apache.org/mailing_lists.html, and secondarily cause of its name.

      This is to at least address the first one that is causing growing pain to its subscribers. Lets move it to the bottom of the presented list of lists.

      1. HADOOP-9239.patch
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        Harsh J
      2. HADOOP-9239.patch
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        Harsh J

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          hadoopqa Hadoop QA added a comment -

          -1 overall. Here are the results of testing the latest attachment
          http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12566260/HADOOP-9239.patch
          against trunk revision .

          -1 patch. The patch command could not apply the patch.

          Console output: https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-HADOOP-Build/2082//console

          This message is automatically generated.

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          hadoopqa Hadoop QA added a comment - -1 overall . Here are the results of testing the latest attachment http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12566260/HADOOP-9239.patch against trunk revision . -1 patch . The patch command could not apply the patch. Console output: https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-HADOOP-Build/2082//console This message is automatically generated.
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          shv Konstantin Shvachko added a comment -

          Should we also change the description for this list saying that
          The general mailing list is for announcements and project management discussion.
          The current description is somewhat vague.

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          shv Konstantin Shvachko added a comment - Should we also change the description for this list saying that The general mailing list is for announcements and project management discussion. The current description is somewhat vague.
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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment -

          Makes sense, here's an updated patch that also puts the notice first.

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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment - Makes sense, here's an updated patch that also puts the notice first.
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          hadoopqa Hadoop QA added a comment -

          -1 overall. Here are the results of testing the latest attachment
          http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12566285/HADOOP-9239.patch
          against trunk revision .

          -1 patch. The patch command could not apply the patch.

          Console output: https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-HADOOP-Build/2084//console

          This message is automatically generated.

          Show
          hadoopqa Hadoop QA added a comment - -1 overall . Here are the results of testing the latest attachment http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12566285/HADOOP-9239.patch against trunk revision . -1 patch . The patch command could not apply the patch. Console output: https://builds.apache.org/job/PreCommit-HADOOP-Build/2084//console This message is automatically generated.
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          shv Konstantin Shvachko added a comment -

          +1 Looks good.

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          shv Konstantin Shvachko added a comment - +1 Looks good.
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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment -

          Thanks! I went ahead and committed it in as 1438128, following the HowToCommit guide.

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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment - Thanks! I went ahead and committed it in as 1438128, following the HowToCommit guide.
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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment -

          Issued the svn up at people.apache.org. I'll check back in an hour to make sure http://hadoop.apache.org/mailing_lists.html is updated as per our changes here.

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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment - Issued the svn up at people.apache.org. I'll check back in an hour to make sure http://hadoop.apache.org/mailing_lists.html is updated as per our changes here.
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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment -

          Done, the general is now not the first one in the list.

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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment - Done, the general is now not the first one in the list.
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          stevel@apache.org Steve Loughran added a comment -

          Harsh

          Thanks for doing this. I look forward to general@ being less full of "what does "java not found" mean?" messages.

          • could you add a bit of text to say "user@" is not the place to discuss installation problems related to any third party products that install some variant of Hadoop on people's desktops and servers. You're the one who ends up having to bounce off all the CDH-related queries -it would help you too.
          • For the new "Invalid JIRA" link to paste into JIRA issues about this, I point to the distributions and Commercial support page on the wiki -something similar on the mailing lists page would avoid having to put any specific vendor links into the mailing lists page, and support a higher/more open update process. See http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/InvalidJiraIssues
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          stevel@apache.org Steve Loughran added a comment - Harsh Thanks for doing this. I look forward to general@ being less full of "what does "java not found" mean?" messages. could you add a bit of text to say "user@" is not the place to discuss installation problems related to any third party products that install some variant of Hadoop on people's desktops and servers. You're the one who ends up having to bounce off all the CDH-related queries -it would help you too. For the new "Invalid JIRA" link to paste into JIRA issues about this, I point to the distributions and Commercial support page on the wiki -something similar on the mailing lists page would avoid having to put any specific vendor links into the mailing lists page, and support a higher/more open update process. See http://wiki.apache.org/hadoop/InvalidJiraIssues
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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment -

          All good ideas! I spawned off HADOOP-9243 to address them up since I already closed this one out.

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          qwertymaniac Harsh J added a comment - All good ideas! I spawned off HADOOP-9243 to address them up since I already closed this one out.

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              qwertymaniac Harsh J
              Reporter:
              qwertymaniac Harsh J
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