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    • Type: Improvement Improvement
    • Status: Resolved
    • Priority: Major Major
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Affects Version/s: None
    • Fix Version/s: site
    • Component/s: documentation
    • Labels:
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    • Hadoop Flags:
      Reviewed

      Description

      Add a link to training videos from the getting started section (like Pig, see http://hadoop.apache.org/pig/).

      1. hadoop-5754-v3.patch
        2 kB
        Tom White
      2. hadoop-5754-v2.patch
        0.8 kB
        Tom White
      3. HADOOP-5754.patch
        2 kB
        Doug Cutting
      4. hadoop-5754.patch
        0.7 kB
        Tom White

        Activity

        Transition Time In Source Status Execution Times Last Executer Last Execution Date
        Open Open Resolved Resolved
        2d 16h 38m 1 Tom White 01/May/09 09:57
        Resolved Resolved Reopened Reopened
        7h 54m 1 Stefan Groschupf 01/May/09 17:52
        Reopened Reopened Resolved Resolved
        1165d 20h 52m 1 Tom White 10/Jul/12 14:44
        Tom White made changes -
        Status Reopened [ 4 ] Resolved [ 5 ]
        Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]
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        Harsh J added a comment -

        Shouldn't this JIRA be marked resolved? I came across it while trying to handle HADOOP-8579.

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        Harsh J added a comment - Shouldn't this JIRA be marked resolved? I came across it while trying to handle HADOOP-8579 .
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        Tom White added a comment -

        I've just (re-)committed this.

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        Tom White added a comment - I've just (re-)committed this.
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        Stefan Groschupf added a comment -

        +1, I appreciate the compromise. Thanks Doug, Thanks Tom.

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        Stefan Groschupf added a comment - +1, I appreciate the compromise. Thanks Doug, Thanks Tom.
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        Doug Cutting added a comment -

        +1 This looks fine to me. Chris? Stefan? Owen?

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        Doug Cutting added a comment - +1 This looks fine to me. Chris? Stefan? Owen?
        Tom White made changes -
        Attachment hadoop-5754-v3.patch [ 12407388 ]
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        Tom White added a comment -

        Thanks Doug. I've made a minor adjustment to link to a video which is more of a Hadoop tutorial, to address Chris's comment.

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        Tom White added a comment - Thanks Doug. I've made a minor adjustment to link to a video which is more of a Hadoop tutorial, to address Chris's comment.
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        Christophe Bisciglia added a comment -

        Thanks for your mail. I am currently on vacation and will be slow to
        respond to email. If you need more immediate response, please use the
        following contacts:

        For Sales and Contract related issues, please contact Mike Olson:
        mike.olson@cloudera.com

        For Support and Training, please contact support@cloudera.com or
        training@cloudera.com

        If it is urgent, please send sms to my mobile: +16503803488


        get hadoop: cloudera.com/hadoop
        online training: cloudera.com/hadoop-training
        blog: cloudera.com/blog
        twitter: twitter.com/cloudera

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        Christophe Bisciglia added a comment - Thanks for your mail. I am currently on vacation and will be slow to respond to email. If you need more immediate response, please use the following contacts: For Sales and Contract related issues, please contact Mike Olson: mike.olson@cloudera.com For Support and Training, please contact support@cloudera.com or training@cloudera.com If it is urgent, please send sms to my mobile: +16503803488 – get hadoop: cloudera.com/hadoop online training: cloudera.com/hadoop-training blog: cloudera.com/blog twitter: twitter.com/cloudera
        Doug Cutting made changes -
        Attachment HADOOP-5754.patch [ 12407385 ]
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        Doug Cutting added a comment -

        The Forrest DTD does now accept rel, and lots of other Forrest-generated sites seem to use it, so I'm not sure why this fails. In any case, I managed to force it through with this patch. It'd be better to figure out where the wrong DTD is getting picked up.

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        Doug Cutting added a comment - The Forrest DTD does now accept rel, and lots of other Forrest-generated sites seem to use it, so I'm not sure why this fails. In any case, I managed to force it through with this patch. It'd be better to figure out where the wrong DTD is getting picked up.
        Tom White made changes -
        Attachment hadoop-5754-v2.patch [ 12407284 ]
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        Tom White added a comment -

        Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here's a new patch which links direct to Vimeo. Forrest doesn't accept rel="nofollow". Anyone know how to get it to do that?

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        Tom White added a comment - Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here's a new patch which links direct to Vimeo. Forrest doesn't accept rel="nofollow". Anyone know how to get it to do that?
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        Doug Cutting added a comment -

        I chatted with Tom and we discussed two alternatives:

        • link to the Vimeo page hosting the video, with a nofollow link; or
        • link to a wiki page that in turn points to Cloudera pages (all outbound links in the wiki are nofollow)
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        Doug Cutting added a comment - I chatted with Tom and we discussed two alternatives: link to the Vimeo page hosting the video, with a nofollow link; or link to a wiki page that in turn points to Cloudera pages (all outbound links in the wiki are nofollow)
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        Chris K Wensel added a comment -

        surprised the obvious compromise to add the 'nofollow' tag hasn't been suggested yet.

        fyi, it takes a Silver sponsorship to have the 'nofollow' tag removed when being linked as a ASF sponsor.

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        Chris K Wensel added a comment - surprised the obvious compromise to add the 'nofollow' tag hasn't been suggested yet. fyi, it takes a Silver sponsorship to have the 'nofollow' tag removed when being linked as a ASF sponsor.
        Stefan Groschupf made changes -
        Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]
        Status Resolved [ 5 ] Reopened [ 4 ]
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        Stefan Groschupf added a comment -

        Tom, wow! That was fast! Shouldn't we give the community more time to discuss such a delicate issue? I'm concerned about the neutrality of hadoop here. It would be much better to link a hadoop introduction video from the apache conference. At least linking to Vimeo and not directly to a specific vendor would be a good sign.

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        Stefan Groschupf added a comment - Tom, wow! That was fast! Shouldn't we give the community more time to discuss such a delicate issue? I'm concerned about the neutrality of hadoop here. It would be much better to link a hadoop introduction video from the apache conference. At least linking to Vimeo and not directly to a specific vendor would be a good sign.
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        Chris K Wensel added a comment -

        I agree with Owen it is reasonable to have training and tutorial videos on the front page.

        but after watching a training video, I would expect to know how to use the application I was just trained on. this video does not meet that expectation.

        I suspect calling this video a "Training" video is just a unfortunate choice of words and not some attempt at getting better google search results.

        regardless, it comes off more like a presentation on Hadoop, yes this is just semantics to some degree.

        but I wonder if the actual content is something worthy of being on the front page vs a video showing how to use Hadoop (like a screencast or something you typically see).

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        Chris K Wensel added a comment - I agree with Owen it is reasonable to have training and tutorial videos on the front page. but after watching a training video, I would expect to know how to use the application I was just trained on. this video does not meet that expectation. I suspect calling this video a "Training" video is just a unfortunate choice of words and not some attempt at getting better google search results. regardless, it comes off more like a presentation on Hadoop, yes this is just semantics to some degree. but I wonder if the actual content is something worthy of being on the front page vs a video showing how to use Hadoop (like a screencast or something you typically see).
        Tom White made changes -
        Status Open [ 1 ] Resolved [ 5 ]
        Hadoop Flags [Reviewed]
        Fix Version/s site [ 12312854 ]
        Resolution Fixed [ 1 ]
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        Tom White added a comment -

        I've just committed this.

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        Tom White added a comment - I've just committed this.
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        Owen O'Malley added a comment -

        There is already a wiki that lists support vendors, so that shouldn't be on the front page.

        However, free training videos seem reasonable on the front page. If a second organization starts hosting training videos, we should probably pull it off to a specialized page. I don't think a wiki is necessary or even a good idea. (We don't really want to turn it in to a wild west of wiki changes.)

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        Owen O'Malley added a comment - There is already a wiki that lists support vendors, so that shouldn't be on the front page. However, free training videos seem reasonable on the front page. If a second organization starts hosting training videos, we should probably pull it off to a specialized page. I don't think a wiki is necessary or even a good idea. (We don't really want to turn it in to a wild west of wiki changes.)
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        Enis Soztutar added a comment -

        Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site.

        Sounds good to me.

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        Enis Soztutar added a comment - Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site. Sounds good to me.
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        Chris K Wensel added a comment -

        Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site.

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        Chris K Wensel added a comment - Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site.
        Tom White made changes -
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        Attachment hadoop-5754.patch [ 12406657 ]
        Tom White created issue -

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