Add link to training from website

• Key: HADOOP-5754
• Type: Improvement
• Status: Reopened
• Priority: Major
• Assignee: Tom White
• Reporter: Tom White
• Component/s: documentation
• Fix Version/s: site

Description

Add a link to training videos from the getting started section (like Pig, see http://hadoop.apache.org/pig/).

Comments

[Chris K Wensel]

Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site.

[Enis Soztutar]

Maybe if the link went to a dedicated training/support page on the wiki instead of directly to a commercial vendors site.

Sounds good to me.

[Owen O'Malley]

There is already a wiki that lists support vendors, so that shouldn't be on the front page.

However, free training videos seem reasonable on the front page. If a second organization starts hosting training videos, we should probably pull it off to a specialized page. I don't think a wiki is necessary or even a good idea. (We don't really want to turn it in to a wild west of wiki changes.)

[Tom White]

I've just committed this.

[Chris K Wensel]

I agree with Owen it is reasonable to have training and tutorial videos on the front page.

but after watching a training video, I would expect to know how to use the application I was just trained on. this video does not meet that expectation.

I suspect calling this video a "Training" video is just a unfortunate choice of words and not some attempt at getting better google search results.

regardless, it comes off more like a presentation on Hadoop, yes this is just semantics to some degree.

but I wonder if the actual content is something worthy of being on the front page vs a video showing how to use Hadoop (like a screencast or something you typically see).

[Stefan Groschupf]

Tom, wow! That was fast! Shouldn't we give the community more time to discuss such a delicate issue? I'm concerned about the neutrality of hadoop here. It would be much better to link a hadoop introduction video from the apache conference. At least linking to Vimeo and not directly to a specific vendor would be a good sign.

[Chris K Wensel]

surprised the obvious compromise to add the 'nofollow' tag hasn't been suggested yet.

fyi, it takes a Silver sponsorship to have the 'nofollow' tag removed when being linked as a ASF sponsor.

[Doug Cutting]

I chatted with Tom and we discussed two alternatives:

• link to the Vimeo page hosting the video, with a nofollow link; or
• link to a wiki page that in turn points to Cloudera pages (all outbound links in the wiki are nofollow)

[Tom White]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Here's a new patch which links direct to Vimeo. Forrest doesn't accept rel="nofollow". Anyone know how to get it to do that?

[Doug Cutting]

The Forrest DTD does now accept rel, and lots of other Forrest-generated sites seem to use it, so I'm not sure why this fails. In any case, I managed to force it through with this patch. It'd be better to figure out where the wrong DTD is getting picked up.

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[Tom White]

Thanks Doug. I've made a minor adjustment to link to a video which is more of a Hadoop tutorial, to address Chris's comment.

[Doug Cutting]

+1 This looks fine to me. Chris? Stefan? Owen?

[Stefan Groschupf]

+1, I appreciate the compromise. Thanks Doug, Thanks Tom.

[Tom White]

I've just (re-)committed this.